Episode Eight in my series of video “lectures,” co-written with game designer James Portnow. It’s time for another Game Design Corner episode, where we look specifically at elements of game design. I can be reached at floydo_animation at yahoo dot com. You can reach James at jportnow at gmail dot com. We now have a blog! For updates on the progress of the next episode and more gaming discussion, go to: videogamesand.blogspot.com Like the intro music? Download the full tracks here! Penguin Cap www.carbohydrom.net Fei Longer ocremix.org Great video bring with hitvideo.org
-
jigfar7 said:
you fuckers better rate i want him to sim... -
TouchMy2inCock said:
Your 365th video. Yaay!... -
nubpjuju said:
see now thats the proper way to get ratings, none ... -
Rawlyboy77 said:
I don't think it's a bad trailer. You got more th... -
Iraguru said:
I had FF13 on the 7th of march.. preorderd it in a...
2009 2010 animasyon Best Comedy deney Deneyler Elektrik Elektronik Elektronik Hobi episode Ev Yapımı Eğitim Eğlence FIFA Film football from game Jackson LEGO Live Love Mekanik Messi. Michael motor movie Music official Part Projeler Song SPORT Subbed Tanıtım Technic Testler Trailer veterinary video Whose World YuGiOh Ödev
WP Cumulus Flash tag cloud by Roy Tanck and Luke Morton requires Flash Player 9 or better.
9:15 pm on April 19th, 2010
@stes314 Technically you can swap those four values with anything else you like. Those were just some examples. It all depends on what values you want to base your morality system on.
9:21 pm on April 19th, 2010
Once more, you NAIL the issue at hand, and I have some suggestions for episode 9.
10:09 pm on April 19th, 2010
Got to say, i really do not value or even think too much about moral choices
i tend to be evil due to it giving me more power, more items that i can do more fun stuff with
Bioshock “evil” gave me more adam that i could spend to be one powerful badass
KOTOR same thing “evil” was just more fun
Then again the good side always feels well in lack of better words, i feel like a pussy with the the good side
Kill 20 people and get a new gun, or save 20 people and get some cash
im going for the gun
10:49 pm on April 19th, 2010
I think the factions idea is fantastic. There is no such thing as absolute morality, that’s what makes games not feel right- the game developer is judging your choices. As soon as that judgement is passed to other characters, it becomes a far superior measure.
The best morality system would merely give you consequences- it’s up to the player to feel right about what they did, or intended to do, and how they may have been judged for doing so
10:55 pm on April 19th, 2010
When my position as concept artist in the gaming industry is secured I will make all my buds see your fair points.
11:43 pm on April 19th, 2010
How come the government is not funding you to make more of these videos?
12:36 am on April 20th, 2010
One major problem with your “colour wheel” idea is that it lacks any way to show selfish or sadistic actions. Your colour wheel would work well for many choices, and it would be possible to design a game with only these types of choices, but what influence would a choice such as nuking megaton for money in fallout 3 have? You are not increasing discipline, freedom, the good of the many or the rights of the few.
12:43 am on April 20th, 2010
I like your ideas, but you are making a huge assumption. You assume that all players want to be “good”. Some like to play fallout 3 by going round and killing and enslaving as many people they can. Games are not real life, people don’t want to be good, sometimes they like being a massive asshole, often the funnest parts of a game will be doing evil, if you make doing good a sacrifice and evil, or not doing good easy, then you are destroying a major part of the game.
1:10 am on April 20th, 2010
A thousand times yes. Not even gonna look at th arguments going on in the comments section.
2:09 am on April 20th, 2010
thanks for uploading another video. I’ve watched all of your lectures, and they’re extremely interesting :]
2:38 am on April 20th, 2010
This is an very insightful video! I rarely see practical solutions for these kinds of problems make sense, but your solutions definitely do!
I’m about to finish the last half of my video essay/analysis of Ico and Shadow of the Colossus, check it out if you get the chance!
3:32 am on April 20th, 2010
Yay thank you for uploading another great video. Can’t wait for another one.
3:44 am on April 20th, 2010
If anyone remembers the game Bully, every mission gives you minus and plus morale.
4:22 am on April 20th, 2010
@Vanalovan I really don’t think the fact you could persuade Zaeed was really an issue. You still made that initial choice while being aware of the consequences, you still faced that dillema of “do I sacrifice the mission or do I let the innocent workers die?” without knowing that you’d be given a second chance at persuading Zaeed in the end.
And yet, that wasn’t a “Good Vs. Evil” choice, it was a just a “do things by the book Vs. do whatever it takes”, which is what I love in ME’s system.
5:03 am on April 20th, 2010
i was waiting for u to mention Heavy Rain. its a great example of choices, some which are moral, and totally ambiguous.
5:29 am on April 20th, 2010
YES!!!!! IT’S HERE!!!
6:17 am on April 20th, 2010
I love you for this.
6:43 am on April 20th, 2010
2:26 made me lol
7:38 am on April 20th, 2010
@mecrutio19 I definitely started after Yahtzee. His series had just gotten popular and I had to make a presentation for class, so I mimicked his style. I’ve given it more of my own personal touch since then, but his show was definitely the original inspiration.
7:58 am on April 20th, 2010
Heavy Rain does this VERY well. Try it out.
8:46 am on April 20th, 2010
@kirithem not to mention yours are far more in-depth and enjoyable
(Also, Did i read that Yahtzee took inspiration from you? or you from Yahtzee?.. can’t rememner)
9:29 am on April 20th, 2010
well, as a real gamer, i do suggest you to look into the classic Black and White on PC! <— it’s a repetitive game, but it really has that good and bad moral value thing like no other!
9:30 am on April 20th, 2010
this reminds of that scene in donnie darko where jake slams the teacher for quantising emotions into 2 directions.
9:50 am on April 20th, 2010
blah blah words everyone knows put into order. i sound smart… now let me go find a job. really? YOUR giving advise on morality. i thought this was a good video till the end. if you don’t have a job it doesn’t help sway the world by constructing chromaticism in areas you haven’t yet conquered.
10:22 am on April 20th, 2010
maybe there should be a video on the wider topic of morality in videogames.
the most profound moral choices i’ve had in videogames have been where there isn’t a choice, except to keep on playing. shadow of the colossus, killing the boss in metal gear solid 3. maybe if bioshock had made me kill the little sisters rather than give me the choice, there might have been more weight to the moral issue.